How to Work with Patients Whose Trauma Triggers Problems in Their Current Relationships
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with Stephen Porges, PhD;
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with Stephen Porges, PhD; Terry Real, MSW, LICSW;
Janina Fisher, PhD Richard; Schwartz, PhD; Pat Ogden, PhD; Martha Sweezy, PhD, LICSW; Bessel van der Kolk, MD; Ruth Lanius, MD, PhD; Deb Dana, LCSW; Thema Bryant-Davis, PhD; Ruth Buczynski, PhD
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I was able to follow 4 out of 5 meetings of this program and I want to say thank you to all of you for sharing your knowledge and ultimately your wisdom regarding such human matters. I will keep this knowledge with me both in my professional and personal life, and try to apply it as much as possible. The goal is simply to be a decent human being and unfortunately the standards nowadays are pretty low, which causes a cascade of trauma and suffering which is hard to stand.
Thank you all again
Thank you so much for very important videos on Trauma, and its consequences. This helped me immensely on understanding my own Trauma even though I had many years of therapy. This is all new and advanced research on Trauma since the late 80’s and 90’s. Cyndi Chicago IL
Thank you for the additional tools for my toolkit!! I will begin to put them into practice!! Thank you for your hard work and dedication.
I’m going to add part therapy to my trauma work. I’ll also ask better questions of male trauma patients.
thank you so much for these programs; they have been so helpful.
The whole programa was fantastic. Thanks !
Thank you so much!
Thank you very much for all!
You worked it out so precisely.
I also see a little bit of the challenging but also healing work that the people here do every day!
Respect!
Thank you so much for these incredibly interesting webinars and for your will about making them freely available in first intention !
I am a non-practitioner, just curious and concerned about trauma. You brought such a clear understanding of the mecanisms related to trauma.
Thank you so much for that valuable work.
I would love to get the gold package, but at my stage of life I have to chose very carefully what I can spend. You say you want to make it available to everyone even if they are unable to pay, but you do not give a space for applying for discounts.
Can I use this space to let you know how valuable it has been for me, and how it would be even more precious to me if I could have the material permanently. Is there a way to receive it for free or for a much lower cost.
Thank you for the opportunity to participate.
Having watched/listened to all five of the Sessions (multiple times in many instances), I am amazed at how much I have learned–and how curious I am about many of those ‘new-to-me’ concepts.
Thank you so much for allowing us to ‘sit-in’ for free on this extraordinary opportunity to learn from the presenters–and Ruth too–for tying everything together so meaningfully.
agree it was an amazing free opportunity. Ut was so.pertinent and valiable, I made time for it. Many others here are grateful. this info is not easy to find in and all one place by the original developers and with such a range of gifted, articulate, diverse practitioners. they are all so professional and compassionate. thanks to Ruth and team.
With thanks – no words right now.
Dear Ruth and all. Many thanks for the program; love the way NICABM cover so many subjects and love the variety of presenters. Not a practitioner but have found the material utterly eye-opening and informative; it has helped me to put words to many “things” that go on inside. The often used “how did this help you survive” has been a game-changer. Thanks again. >3
Utterly fascinating. I have certainly gained insight into my own defensive adaptations to trauma that I have not dared to identify previously. It is totally ground breaking both for myself and for those that I continue to communicate with – and teach – in the future.
Thanks for sharing this Advanced Trauma Series.
The insights and tools are useful, meaningful and helpful to me and by extension to my relationships.
God bless all of you abundantly.
God bless all the participants of this program.
The healing work has begun.
God bless you also.
I thank this new form for transmitting such important lessons for psychotherapists and in this specific case for people who suffer from trauma.
It’s great to be able to hear people specialized in this topic speak to us. We can thus feel closer to the strategies. It’s very different from reading a book and even several books
Thank you for having this objective to transmit for all around the world
THANKS
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I am very grateful for all the knowledge that you imparted regarding trauma responses. I am a psychologist from the Dominican Republic and I think it will be very useful to detect responses associated with a traumatic event and strategies that can be implemented to deal with this situation. I found it interesting: the compassionate look at what happens to me, the traumatic responses beyond attack and flight (attach and cry for help, collapse/submitt, please and appease), and the impact on relationships.
how about Meow & Kowtow? 😇
I’m new to trauma work so this was so informative for me but, I’ve also learned there are many things that I have been using with patients that I’ve learned from this session.
Thank you so much for making this training available, sharing so much & providing the study guides along with insites. You are all amazing in teaching from experience.
thank very much for this very interesting program, very operationnal to use.
Using various strategies depending on the client trauma effects can be complex to navigate.
Thankyou for the insjights which enrich the understanding that can be shared.
Where does Marsha Langhans treatment fit?
Huge appreciation for this program. Not only are the new ideas user friendly and applicable, I recognized through the wealth of experience generously shared by the presenters, that many are already embedded in my practice and much of this is due to previous attendance to webinars provided by NICABM.
Thanks from Cambridge UK
Thank you so much. I learned a lot and will be rereading my notes and start to apply what I learned…
Thank you for making it possible to participate. From today’s module I will mainly use it for selfheal and in the future for clients, since I do hope to be able to work helping others once I finished my own old baggage.
Thank you 🙏
Amazing program. Thank you.
This program is absolutely amazing!
As the experts were talking, I could identify specific clients who could benefit from those strategies and psycho-education. i also gained additional insight for myself from the ideas they shared.
I really appreciated this programme immensely.
Many many thanks for your generosity in sharing all this extremely useful material free of charge.
You are definitely making a difference to peoples lives!
God Bless You!!
Thanks a lot for the program. I’ve worked in psychoeducation in Colombia in the context of war and political violence. I find very helpful all that I have learned. I want to highlight for my work the importance of bringing how the response to trauma was helpful for the person while experiencing the trauma.
Thank you very much for this so interesting and useful training!
I really loved this it will help me to be more aware of others trauma as my also
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Go NICABM!!!!!
Throughout this training I imagined two specific clients and then began to apply these understandings and strategies in sessions with them. These are two adult clients with significant dissociative defenses. Both are progressing. The alerts and guides to the Therapists in this training have helped me offer my clients more of what they need to progress. It’s so painful and frightening to do therapy, and I admire the courage and tenacity of my clients to go through the dark time and celebrate with them the moments they have clarity and see their own power emerge. Also, I work primarily with children and youth, now, and I see their parents in regular in parent sessions. During the training, I thought of different children I began to apply learnings from the training. And, the final session on relational trauma and how trauma affects relationships, helped me understand and develop applications of the concepts and strategies with the high conflict parents. In my community, child therapists have stopped taking children and youth whose parents are in a high conflict divorce. As I begin to get flooded with those clients, I find the material on relationship trauma and how trauma affects relationships very helpful. I have seen the parents calm, pull their explosive, blaming part in, and begin to consider getting a therapist for themselves. It is possible to impact even high conflict families and having understanding and skills to work with them may help us not abandon the children in those families. I’m grateful for this opportunity to sit in on these free sessions. I have recommended this training to other therapists.
Yet I truly appreciate the materials and videos which capture the physical and emotional presence of all of these authors/practitioners. Thank you for expanding on the layers of trauma and the therapeutic alliance. Within this presentation, there were recollections of clients. I felt their tenderness, able to witness how they supported heartfelt connections, mindfulness and deepened the work.
This program is powerful and has me energized since I can use much of this with my clients. What I would like is a consultation group from this training. Buying the package would make the most sense if I could meet with a group monthly who are using this. I hope nicabm will think about this. Consultation with others who have this material and work with others doing therapy would be incredibly helpful.
Thank you very much for putting this training together and providing flexibility for accessing it at different times.
These modules are very helpful and refreshing as they provide direct intervention ideas to clinicians like myself. Often the workshops are too theoretical and not practical enough. Your program has a different focus, exactly what is needed for practice.
With gratitude.
Helpful comments. The deep compassion that people like Janina Fisher, Bessel, Dr. Stephen Porges, Ruth Lanius, Dr. Thema, and in other sessions, Deb Dana, Pat Ogden, together with the creative supervision and direction of Dr. Ruth B’s skillful teaching expertise in weaving this together, opens many avenues for deeper study through exploring the individual work of these profoundly wise, accomplished researchers, teachers, thought-leaders. There is something here for everyone in the field to learn and apply in their trauma recovery work.
Thank you all!
Celebrating your commitment to service. This class has been more than helpful. The team of professionals that you have brought together has added to the overall quality of the class. Thank you so much.
This last program is such a fabulous summary —- 3rd time listening and hope for another later today!!
Thank you for this excellent series I will use what I have larnt here with our psychodrama students from London Centre for Psychodrama
Once again, Many thanks for the last module and all the training. That was good and rafraishing.
Sincerely Dr Daoust
Watching this session a second time I was especially impressed by how these multiple therapeutic perspectives formed an integrated whole. They click into a gestalt that is intellectually, practically, and even spiritually satisfying. My own current work draws on behavioral health insights to write philosophically about human nature/potential. From that vantage, the perspectives shared today go to the heart of mind/body, free will/determinism, self identity. I find their coherence especially rich for the moral focus of Carol Gilligan’s work on care (from which we have so much more to learn and develop). Empathy and SELF-compassion are crucial to health. Carl Rogers would be proud of today’s offering. Thank you, Ruth et al.
I was interested in the suggestion of talking about the wounded part rather than from the wounded part and questioned does the wounded part not need expression even if it is anger, rage or tears in a therapeutic relationship. Many years ago I did some training with Hal Stone and Sidra Winkleman called Voice Dialogue which I have often found very useful working with my clients and some of the ideas today resonated with that way of working. I really enjoy the visuals as a learning tool.
Thank you for putting this together
Thanks for these webinars, I have enjoyed watching them.
I’m here for personal development rather than as a therapist, although as I learn more perhaps that would become possible.
I’ve read/watched quite a lot.of material around polyvagal theory, survival responses, attachment, etc. over the last few years.
I had not encountered the protective teen part before as a concept, so that triggered a nice little eureka.
This will take some processing.
Love
Fred
That was so amazing! Thank you thank you thank you. Really impressive and fantastic how you made me cheer up through out the sessions about things i deeply knew but didn’t put consciously together and you acknowledged it and found perfect words for it, im super excited that people learn more about trauma, that’s is deeply satisfying to me. So it ripples out into the world and helps us be kinder with ourselves and others. So insightful and explained down to the basics, im very impressed and grateful that i have been able to be part of the last couple of weeks, i will definitely recommend it to many people, Thank you
I am a parent of an adult with CPTSD from repeated childhood sexual abuse. Your resources are invaluable to my understanding of the complexities of her situation and seeing where I have to act counterintuitively in certain situations. It also gives me language to make points to her care team members who are rarely experts in dealing with trauma.Resources are limited in more rural areas.Thank-you!
This was another program full of helpful insights and strategies. I’ve been conscious of my childhood traumas for decades, but it hasn’t been easy to diffuse the body’s defensive behaviors. This program was eye-opening and compassionately understood which offers hope for change. I am so grateful for this whole series (I missed some of it.) but what I caught has been a remarkable series of insights. I am in therapy, and I think I’ll have a bit more courage to start exposing things that are really deeply hidden and in need of compassionate understanding. The child parts and the adult part of me is developing a better connection, trust, and dialogue via journaling. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Biggest takeaway is to be really present with self and others as trauma is not a life sentence and we can heal and grow from the experience.
Thanks a lot!
I am very grateful for this community and learned a lot from these videos. I learned that it’s very important to communicate to the client about what it is we are doing in therapy so as to not cause a PTSD response. I’ve had a client who had an anxiety attack that brought them to me. I felt it was best to try IFS Therapy and the client had a negative reaction to it. They reached out to me for help after our session saying they were dissociating. We had a session the following week and the client told me their body was tense and in a lot of emotional pain thinking about the up coming session. I never had a client respond to IFS therapy like this before.
Your comment indicates some caution in working with the model you identified. Some clients have far deeper wounds that are challenging for them to become aware of. There are other more clinical models that might help deepen your and the client’s understanding. Perhaps the work of Dr. van der Kolk, who was an original researcher who predates others in the field, and who is still considered an expert on dissociation, might reveal some insights for assisting clients who have extremely high levels of what Kathy Steele refers to as “structural dissociation” combined with Complex PTSD.
Wonderful program. It’s as if I can now sense a new dimension in my clients, myself and my work. I wish this information could be shared with all in our related fields and beyond. I often remind clients we are the particular human species that survived. We may be too good at just surviving. Our automatic responses need to become conscious. The polyvagel theory has made it much easier to be the conscious curious observer especially if you don’t trust people or yourself. I do hope some version of this material is shared with law enforcement, parents and anyone in a leadership role. Our world needs psycho education. PBS may be ready and waiting for you!
I agree it would be helpful for parents, law enforcement and even teachers to have access to this information even if on a smaller scale. Maybe a mini-series.
I will try to discover how a very good friend of mine learned the please and appease roll I ‘be identified in his adaptive child. Hopefully, we will be curious together on how it was once a necessary survival tactic which today, is creating a barrier to breaking free from this role. Because today, it is getting in the way of healing his trauma from childhood and progress toward functional adulthood.